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Attachments visible to Outlook users, not to Outlook Express users

Author
12 Jun 2009 10:13 AM
Philip Herlihy
Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully
updated) cannot be read by another user in Outlook Express.  She can
receive attachments from other users (this isn't the security issue
where OE is hiding attachments that might represent a security risk).

Looking at the message source in OE I see this:

Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
     name="winmail.dat"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
     filename="winmail.dat"

I understood it's well-known that most user agents can't decode "Outlook
Rich Text" but the sending Outlook is configured to use HTML, not Rich
Text.  I changed the global setting to Plain Text and all was well, but
setting it back to HTML brought back the problem.

I've worked around this for now by setting up a contact for the OE user
which forces Outlook to send as Plain Text, and attachments sent
subsequently can be detected and opened.  However, I'd like a fix for
this, as the sending user prefers to be able to send colourful emails
and at the moment any other OE user won't be able to decode any
attachments she sends.

Any ideas?

This is one of those problems whose search terms are so similar to an
unrelated but common problem (alluded to above) that Google is no help
at all!

Phil, London

Author
12 Jun 2009 10:31 AM
Gordon
"Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
news:e$lGBa06JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully
> updated) cannot be read by another user in Outlook Express.

The default Outlook Mail format is Rich Text. Only Outlook (not Outlook
EXPRESS) can read this type of mail format.
Change the Mail format of this User to either Plain Text or HTML, then you
should find that the OE user will be able to see the attachments....

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Author
12 Jun 2009 12:27 PM
Philip Herlihy
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
> news:e$lGBa06JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully
>> updated) cannot be read by another user in Outlook Express.
>
> The default Outlook Mail format is Rich Text. Only Outlook (not Outlook
> EXPRESS) can read this type of mail format.
> Change the Mail format of this User to either Plain Text or HTML, then
> you should find that the OE user will be able to see the attachments....
>

Thanks for the reply, but (as I said) I'd tried that.  It seems to be
"stuck" in Rich Text regardless.

> I understood it's well-known that most user agents can't decode
> "Outlook Rich Text" but the sending Outlook is configured to use HTML,
> not Rich Text.  I changed the global setting to Plain Text and all was
> well, but setting it back to HTML brought back the problem.

Phil
Author
16 Jun 2009 11:42 AM
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
Check the affected person's contact - is it set for rich text only?

We do see a problem now and again where html seems to have the problem and
plain text fixes it, but I don't recall a cause - the solution is just to
use plain text to resend.

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"Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
news:elr#dk16JHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
>> news:e$lGBa06JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully
>>> updated) cannot be read by another user in Outlook Express.
>>
>> The default Outlook Mail format is Rich Text. Only Outlook (not Outlook
>> EXPRESS) can read this type of mail format.
>> Change the Mail format of this User to either Plain Text or HTML, then
>> you should find that the OE user will be able to see the attachments....
>>
>
> Thanks for the reply, but (as I said) I'd tried that.  It seems to be
> "stuck" in Rich Text regardless.
>
> > I understood it's well-known that most user agents can't decode
> > "Outlook Rich Text" but the sending Outlook is configured to use HTML,
> > not Rich Text.  I changed the global setting to Plain Text and all was
> > well, but setting it back to HTML brought back the problem.
>
> Phil
Author
12 Jun 2009 4:44 PM
Peter Foldes
It sure look like (from the message source ) that is Windows Mail on a 64bit and not
Outlook Express. Can you verify please

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"Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
news:e$lGBa06JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully updated) cannot
> be read by another user in Outlook Express.  She can receive attachments from
> other users (this isn't the security issue where OE is hiding attachments that
> might represent a security risk).
>
> Looking at the message source in OE I see this:
>
> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
>     name="winmail.dat"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>     filename="winmail.dat"
>
> I understood it's well-known that most user agents can't decode "Outlook Rich
> Text" but the sending Outlook is configured to use HTML, not Rich Text.  I changed
> the global setting to Plain Text and all was well, but setting it back to HTML
> brought back the problem.
>
> I've worked around this for now by setting up a contact for the OE user which
> forces Outlook to send as Plain Text, and attachments sent subsequently can be
> detected and opened.  However, I'd like a fix for this, as the sending user
> prefers to be able to send colourful emails and at the moment any other OE user
> won't be able to decode any attachments she sends.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> This is one of those problems whose search terms are so similar to an unrelated
> but common problem (alluded to above) that Google is no help at all!
>
> Phil, London
Author
12 Jun 2009 5:47 PM
Philip Herlihy
Peter Foldes wrote:
> It sure look like (from the message source ) that is Windows Mail on a
> 64bit and not Outlook Express. Can you verify please
>

Definitely Outlook Express on a 32-bit machine.

Phil
Author
16 Jun 2009 11:45 AM
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
This determination was made from the content-type snippet he posted?

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"Peter Foldes" <ok***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It sure look like (from the message source ) that is Windows Mail on a
> 64bit and not Outlook Express. Can you verify please
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "Philip Herlihy" <bounceb***@you.com> wrote in message
> news:e$lGBa06JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Attachments sent by just one of our users from Outlook 2003 (fully
>> updated) cannot be read by another user in Outlook Express.  She can
>> receive attachments from other users (this isn't the security issue where
>> OE is hiding attachments that might represent a security risk).
>>
>> Looking at the message source in OE I see this:
>>
>> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
>>     name="winmail.dat"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>>     filename="winmail.dat"
>>
>> I understood it's well-known that most user agents can't decode "Outlook
>> Rich Text" but the sending Outlook is configured to use HTML, not Rich
>> Text.  I changed the global setting to Plain Text and all was well, but
>> setting it back to HTML brought back the problem.
>>
>> I've worked around this for now by setting up a contact for the OE user
>> which forces Outlook to send as Plain Text, and attachments sent
>> subsequently can be detected and opened.  However, I'd like a fix for
>> this, as the sending user prefers to be able to send colourful emails and
>> at the moment any other OE user won't be able to decode any attachments
>> she sends.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> This is one of those problems whose search terms are so similar to an
>> unrelated but common problem (alluded to above) that Google is no help at
>> all!
>>
>> Phil, London
>