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email in outlooki have all of a sudden got these hidden markers in my emails. i forget what
they are called. the bars at the end of sentences, dots between words etc how do i hide them/make them dissappear aac1215 wrote:
> i have all of a sudden got these hidden markers in my emails. i forget what You are using Word as your new-mail editor. You also configured Word to> they are called. the bars at the end of sentences, dots between words etc > how do i hide them/make them dissappear show formatting characters. Someone that knows Word can tell you how to navigate the menus (or you could look for yourself). On the Format Text tab and in the Paragraph section of Outlook 2007 click
the ¶ button. "Test" <t***@test.com> wrote in message Please quote the post you are replying to.news:e4SzU3MpJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > On the Format Text tab and in the Paragraph section of Outlook 2007 click > the ¶ button. Thank you -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) I use a newsgroup reader that shows me exactly which post my replies are
for - maybe you should too. This is one of the reason why I don't use web-based readers. Show quoteHide quote "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:O7VY17MpJHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Test" <t***@test.com> wrote in message > news:e4SzU3MpJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> On the Format Text tab and in the Paragraph section of Outlook 2007 click >> the ¶ button. > > > Please quote the post you are replying to. > > Thank you > > -- > Asking a question? > Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, > your OS, Service Pack level > and the FULL contents of any error message(s) "Test" <t***@test.com> wrote in message These posts are replicated over many thousands of news servers round the news:ODvpelNpJHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I use a newsgroup reader that shows me exactly which post my replies are >for - maybe you should too. This is one of the reason why I don't use >web-based readers. world, not just the MS news servers. Posts go "missing". That is one reason why you should quote the the post you are replying to. Have a look here: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html And if you look at my headers you will see that I AM using a newsreader. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
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> These posts are replicated over many thousands of news servers round the OK. I take your point. I just hate that we are still stuck in the dark ages!> world, not just the MS news servers. Posts go "missing". That is one > reason why you should quote the the post you are replying to. > Have a look here: > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > And if you look at my headers you will see that I AM using a newsreader. > > > > -- > Asking a question? > Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, > your OS, Service Pack level > and the FULL contents of any error message(s) "Test" <t***@test.com> wrote in message It's only the dark ages if you quote the entire message without using cut to news:%23B4H00NpJHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > OK. I take your point. I just hate that we are still stuck in the dark ages! remove the irrelevant portions (like the signature of the person to whom you're replying). -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] "Test" <t***@test.com> wrote in message Standard practice for newsgroups, exspecially when using a newsreader, is to news:ODvpelNpJHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I use a newsgroup reader that shows me exactly which post my replies are >for - maybe you should too. This is one of the reason why I don't use >web-based readers. quote the message to which you're replying. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] Test wrote:
> Gordon wrote ... Besides what Gordon mentions, there is also the fact that NNTP servers>> >> Please quote the post you are replying to. > > I use a newsgroup reader that shows me exactly which post my replies are > for - maybe you should too. This is one of the reason why I don't use > web-based readers. will expire posts (remove them). That means your post might still be on the server but the one to which you replied. Someone might be researching the same problem, see you gave a solution, but might wonder what was the original question. While you should quote enough of the original post (or subthread) to provide context to your reply, it isn't necessary to include everything. Just keep enough so someone looking at your post can see why it exists, what it was about, or if it is an actual solution. The OP's post was pretty short so not much to snip there. - Quote. - Snip. - Arrange all post in same order (top- or bottom-post order). Another reason to quote (and possibly snip) the posts in a subthread is because someone might issue a cancel against their post. Not many NNTP servers honor cancels but some do (like the one that I use but which uses a lock to determine that the actual poster is the one cancelling their prior post). They remove their post, it's gone, and now there's a hole in the subthread because your post doesn't have the original post upon which to rely on for its context. Another reason to quote is something to do with what Gordon mention: propagation delay. Because users are submitting posts at different NNTP servers, the propagation delays for the peering between those hosts and the number of hops between them for the messages to show up on the server that you use could cause the articles to appear out of order. When they arrive they will get ordered in your newsreader in the proper heirarchy but until they arrive they are missing so they can't provide the context for your post. NNTP servers are located worldwide in a huge mesh network. We aren't all posting to the same NNTP server. Another reason to quote has to do with arrogance. Don't expect everyone doing newsgroups to be using your newsreader or a better one. Although discomforting to you, consider the lowest common denominator in this community of peers. Not only are some folks using webnews interfaces or forum gateways to Usenet but some still use command-line (console mode) newsreaders because, after all, this is a text communication medium (excluding the binary groups). That's also why you don't post using HTML and instead use text. That's why you don't use quoted-printable format but instead use fixed line wrap. You don't post here to read your own posts. You want OTHERS to be able to read your posts. You need to provide some context so when someone jumping into your post can get a feel for why you responded as you did and not force them to revisit the entire thread and every subthread trying to patch together what you didn't bother to provide as context.
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"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message ^^^^^^^news:gph9f6$im$1@news.motzarella.org... > Test wrote: > >> Gordon wrote ... >>> >>> Please quote the post you are replying to. >> >> I use a newsgroup reader that shows me exactly which post my replies are >> for - maybe you should too. This is one of the reason why I don't use >> web-based readers. > > Besides what Gordon mentions, there is also the fact that NNTP servers > will expire posts (remove them). That means your post might still be on > the server but the one to which you replied. Someone might be ??????? Please check your grammar Show quoteHide quote > researching the same problem, see you gave a solution, but might wonder > what was the original question. > > While you should quote enough of the original post (or subthread) to > provide context to your reply, it isn't necessary to include everything. > Just keep enough so someone looking at your post can see why it exists, > what it was about, or if it is an actual solution. The OP's post was > pretty short so not much to snip there. > > - Quote. > - Snip. > - Arrange all post in same order (top- or bottom-post order). > > Another reason to quote (and possibly snip) the posts in a subthread is > because someone might issue a cancel against their post. Not many NNTP > servers honor cancels but some do (like the one that I use but which > uses a lock to determine that the actual poster is the one cancelling > their prior post). They remove their post, it's gone, and now there's a > hole in the subthread because your post doesn't have the original post > upon which to rely on for its context. > > Another reason to quote is something to do with what Gordon mention: > propagation delay. Because users are submitting posts at different NNTP > servers, the propagation delays for the peering between those hosts and > the number of hops between them for the messages to show up on the > server that you use could cause the articles to appear out of order. > When they arrive they will get ordered in your newsreader in the proper > heirarchy but until they arrive they are missing so they can't provide > the context for your post. NNTP servers are located worldwide in a huge > mesh network. We aren't all posting to the same NNTP server. > > Another reason to quote has to do with arrogance. Don't expect everyone > doing newsgroups to be using your newsreader or a better one. Although > discomforting to you, consider the lowest common denominator in this > community of peers. Not only are some folks using webnews interfaces or > forum gateways to Usenet but some still use command-line (console mode) > newsreaders because, after all, this is a text communication medium > (excluding the binary groups). That's also why you don't post using > HTML and instead use text. That's why you don't use quoted-printable > format but instead use fixed line wrap. You don't post here to read > your own posts. You want OTHERS to be able to read your posts. You > need to provide some context so when someone jumping into your post can > get a feel for why you responded as you did and not force them to > revisit the entire thread and every subthread trying to patch together > what you didn't bother to provide as context. > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090313-0, 13/03/2009 > Tested on: 3/14/2009 23:20:08 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > John Nice wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote ... The word "not" was missing. Should've been "but not to one".>> >> Besides what Gordon mentions, there is also the fact that NNTP servers >> will expire posts (remove them). That means your post might still be on >> the server but the one to which you replied. Someone might be > ^^^^^^^ Considering my typical verbose output, I do get interrupted in mid- sentence so I forgot to add a word. And this was NOT the only boo-boo I made in my post. >> --- Why would we care that you scan your inbound or outbound newsgroup>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090313-0, 13/03/2009 >> Tested on: 3/14/2009 23:20:08 >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com posts? No one is going to trust such a signature to believe your post was uninfected (if it actually had an attachment). They'll do their own checking. Imagine how much easier it would be to infect hosts if every boob believed that professed claim. I also use avast!. There is an option to NOT include this superfluous signature onto your outbound NNTP messages. I would also recommend doing the same for their POP and IMAP configuration. It just makes you look foolish trying to claim your e-mails and posts are not infected. No one is going to trust an e-mail or post based on some text that was appended to it. It devolves into spam as it advertises the product and company hence it spamifies your e-mails and posts. "aac1215" <aac1***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Press Ctrl-Shift-8 to toggle the formatting marks off/on.news:EB208990-33C3-4091-BD11-74BD0C650440@microsoft.com... >i have all of a sudden got these hidden markers in my emails. i forget what > they are called. the bars at the end of sentences, dots between words etc > how do i hide them/make them dissappear -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]  
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