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show full menu setting not stickingOL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked repeatedly.
when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? jeffrey find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook.
-- Show quoteHide quoteDiane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... > OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked > repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, > reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. > > is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? > > jeffrey > thank you diane.
i did as you suggested. as well as deleting with outlook closed. after changing to "full menus". the next time i open outlook, it is back to unexpanded menus. jeffrey -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >> >> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >> >> jeffrey >> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have the
same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike other office programs, which have the ribbon. jeffrey Show quoteHide quote "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >> >> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >> >> jeffrey >> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the changes
to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you use? (Admin, Limited user, etc) -- Show quoteHide quoteDiane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... > Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have > the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike > other office programs, which have the ribbon. > > jeffrey > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message > news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >> >> -- >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> >> Outlook Tips by email: >> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >> >> >> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >>> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>> >>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>> >>> jeffrey >>> > > whoops, good information to have given.
outlook and onenote 2007, xp pro. admin. -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the changes > to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you use? (Admin, > Limited user, etc) > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have >> the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike >> other office programs, which have the ribbon. >> >> jeffrey >> >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >>>> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>> >>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>> >>>> jeffrey >>>> >> >> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, opened.
icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu setting? or this gets saved to a different file? -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the changes > to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you use? (Admin, > Limited user, etc) > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have >> the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike >> other office programs, which have the ribbon. >> >> jeffrey >> >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >>>> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>> >>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>> >>>> jeffrey >>>> >> >> Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers the
commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the registry at HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = use adaptive menus. Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. -- Show quoteHide quoteDiane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... > diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, opened. > icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu setting? or > this gets saved to a different file? > > -- > jeffrey > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message > news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you use? >> (Admin, Limited user, etc) >> >> -- >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> >> Outlook Tips by email: >> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >> >> >> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have >>> the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike >>> other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>> >>> jeffrey >>> >>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>> >>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>> >>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>> >>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to unexpanded, >>>>> reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>> >>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>> >>>>> jeffrey >>>>> >>> >>> > > xp pro
this is unbelievable. i have tried changing the ....adaptivemenus and the ......autoexpandmenus settings. to 0, to 1, even to 5. changed the setting in outlook, or not. doesn't seem to have any effect. after restarting outlook it is set back to "show full menus after short delay." i tried 'reset menu and toolbar usage data' and unchecking 'show full menu after short delay' as well as checking 'always show full menu'. doesn't help. if i check the "show full menus" adaptivemenus reg entry sets to 0. when i reopen outlook it is changed to 1. something other than registry or outlook settings is controlling it. -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:uYZe9AFpJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers > the commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the > registry at > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = > use adaptive menus. > > Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at > C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office > See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, opened. >> icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu setting? or >> this gets saved to a different file? >> >> -- >> jeffrey >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >>> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you use? >>> (Admin, Limited user, etc) >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i have >>>> the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, unlike >>>> other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>>> >>>> jeffrey >>>> >>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>> >>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>> >>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>> >>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to >>>>>> unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>>> >>>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>>> >>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Is this a work computer? It can be controlled by the admin, using policies.
If a home computer, did you ever play around with policies and the office resource kit? Or use an installation file you got from work? BTW - the only valid options are 0 and 1. :) -- Show quoteHide quoteDiane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hgkvl.23144$yr3.3554@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com... > xp pro > > this is unbelievable. i have tried changing the ....adaptivemenus and the > .....autoexpandmenus settings. to 0, to 1, even to 5. changed the setting > in outlook, or not. doesn't seem to have any effect. after restarting > outlook it is set back to "show full menus after short delay." i tried > 'reset menu and toolbar usage data' and unchecking 'show full menu after > short delay' as well as checking 'always show full menu'. doesn't help. > > if i check the "show full menus" adaptivemenus reg entry sets to 0. when i > reopen outlook it is changed to 1. > > something other than registry or outlook settings is controlling it. > > -- > jeffrey > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message > news:uYZe9AFpJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers >> the commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the >> registry at >> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = >> use adaptive menus. >> >> Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at >> C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office >> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. >> >> -- >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> >> Outlook Tips by email: >> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >> >> >> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, opened. >>> icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu setting? or >>> this gets saved to a different file? >>> >>> -- >>> jeffrey >>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >>>> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you >>>> use? (Admin, Limited user, etc) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>> >>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>> >>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>> >>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i >>>>> have the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, >>>>> unlike other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>>>> >>>>> jeffrey >>>>> >>>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>>> >>>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>>> >>>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to >>>>>>> unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > > Not a work computer. at home, not on network. i am the user, with admin
rights. i know virtually nothing about policies, though i have a vague memory of being instructed to go there for something in the past. don't remember what. i just checked policies and for computer and user, under software settings, there is nothing configured. if there is another spot to check, please let me know. remember, i was able to add icon to toolbar, and that stuck. i believe that i have a copy of office resource kit. never used it. if there is something in there that might help, let me know. no installation files from work. yeah, i know. i was frustrated enough to try '5' and see what happened. reg was happy to accept 5. changed it back to 1 or 0 when i changed outlook options. -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:evRYaTjpJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Is this a work computer? It can be controlled by the admin, using > policies. If a home computer, did you ever play around with policies and > the office resource kit? Or use an installation file you got from work? > > BTW - the only valid options are 0 and 1. :) > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hgkvl.23144$yr3.3554@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com... >> xp pro >> >> this is unbelievable. i have tried changing the ....adaptivemenus and the >> .....autoexpandmenus settings. to 0, to 1, even to 5. changed the >> setting in outlook, or not. doesn't seem to have any effect. after >> restarting outlook it is set back to "show full menus after short delay." >> i tried 'reset menu and toolbar usage data' and unchecking 'show full >> menu after short delay' as well as checking 'always show full menu'. >> doesn't help. >> >> if i check the "show full menus" adaptivemenus reg entry sets to 0. when >> i reopen outlook it is changed to 1. >> >> something other than registry or outlook settings is controlling it. >> >> -- >> jeffrey >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:uYZe9AFpJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers >>> the commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the >>> registry at >>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = >>> use adaptive menus. >>> >>> Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at >>> C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office >>> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, >>>> opened. icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu >>>> setting? or this gets saved to a different file? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> jeffrey >>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >>>>> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you >>>>> use? (Admin, Limited user, etc) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>> >>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>> >>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>> >>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i >>>>>> have the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, >>>>>> unlike other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>>>>> >>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>> >>>>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or >>>>>>> point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to >>>>>>>> unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> btw: in group policy>computer config>windows settings>software restrictions:
no settings. -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:evRYaTjpJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Is this a work computer? It can be controlled by the admin, using > policies. If a home computer, did you ever play around with policies and > the office resource kit? Or use an installation file you got from work? > > BTW - the only valid options are 0 and 1. :) > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hgkvl.23144$yr3.3554@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com... >> xp pro >> >> this is unbelievable. i have tried changing the ....adaptivemenus and the >> .....autoexpandmenus settings. to 0, to 1, even to 5. changed the >> setting in outlook, or not. doesn't seem to have any effect. after >> restarting outlook it is set back to "show full menus after short delay." >> i tried 'reset menu and toolbar usage data' and unchecking 'show full >> menu after short delay' as well as checking 'always show full menu'. >> doesn't help. >> >> if i check the "show full menus" adaptivemenus reg entry sets to 0. when >> i reopen outlook it is changed to 1. >> >> something other than registry or outlook settings is controlling it. >> >> -- >> jeffrey >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:uYZe9AFpJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers >>> the commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the >>> registry at >>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = >>> use adaptive menus. >>> >>> Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at >>> C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office >>> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, >>>> opened. icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu >>>> setting? or this gets saved to a different file? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> jeffrey >>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >>>>> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you >>>>> use? (Admin, Limited user, etc) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>> >>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>> >>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>> >>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i >>>>>> have the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, >>>>>> unlike other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>>>>> >>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>> >>>>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or >>>>>>> point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to >>>>>>>> unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Diane, haven't heard from you. bad sign. running out of ideas about
what to do with this problem? -- Show quoteHide quotejeffrey "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message news:evRYaTjpJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Is this a work computer? It can be controlled by the admin, using > policies. If a home computer, did you ever play around with policies and > the office resource kit? Or use an installation file you got from work? > > BTW - the only valid options are 0 and 1. :) > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > Outlook Tips by email: > mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net > > EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: > mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > You can access this newsgroup by visiting > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your > newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. > > > "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hgkvl.23144$yr3.3554@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com... >> xp pro >> >> this is unbelievable. i have tried changing the ....adaptivemenus and the >> .....autoexpandmenus settings. to 0, to 1, even to 5. changed the >> setting in outlook, or not. doesn't seem to have any effect. after >> restarting outlook it is set back to "show full menus after short delay." >> i tried 'reset menu and toolbar usage data' and unchecking 'show full >> menu after short delay' as well as checking 'always show full menu'. >> doesn't help. >> >> if i check the "show full menus" adaptivemenus reg entry sets to 0. when >> i reopen outlook it is changed to 1. >> >> something other than registry or outlook settings is controlling it. >> >> -- >> jeffrey >> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:uYZe9AFpJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Oh. The personalized menus are in a different file - the file remembers >>> the commands you use the most. The setting to control them is in the >>> registry at >>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Common\Toolbars\AdaptiveMenus. 1 = >>> use adaptive menus. >>> >>> Are you on vista? The outlook.pip file is at >>> C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Office >>> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193006 for XP's path. >>> >>> -- >>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>> >>> Outlook Tips by email: >>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>> >>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>> >>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>> >>> >>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:c8vul.18617$YU2.15190@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> diane, as a test i added an icon to the outlook toolbar, closed, >>>> opened. icon is there. so, this has something to with only the menu >>>> setting? or this gets saved to a different file? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> jeffrey >>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OeqUhc4oJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Something is definitely causing the programs to not write/save the >>>>> changes to the toolbar file. What OS and what user acct type do you >>>>> use? (Admin, Limited user, etc) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>> >>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>> >>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>> >>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point >>>>> your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Cnjul.14671$D32.1070@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Diane, i wonder if the problem is something more global, since i >>>>>> have the same issue in Onenote, which also has the drop down menus, >>>>>> unlike other office programs, which have the ribbon. >>>>>> >>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>> >>>>>> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlook***@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23CwlqGtoJHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> find and delete the outcmd.dat file and restart outlook. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >>>>>>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >>>>>>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outlook Tips by email: >>>>>>> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-requ***@lists.outlooktips.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: >>>>>>> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQU***@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting >>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or >>>>>>> point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "jeffrey" <astr***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Fy0ul.18522$YU2.11838@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>>> OL07, ' tools>customize>always show full menus' has been checked >>>>>>>> repeatedly. when i restart outlook it has reverted back to >>>>>>>> unexpanded, reduced menus, and the box is no longer checked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is there a way to get this to work from one start to another? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jeffrey >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>  
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