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6 Feb 2009 3:23 AM
D. Spencer Hines
We sometimes hear the refrain in these newsgroups, from some quarters, that
we shouldn't expect too much from WLM or some other "free" Microsoft
software because we are not paying for it.

....That we should buy Outlook for example if we want more.

But many of us see Outlook as slow, cumbersome and designed for business
use -- not personal use -- ergo no integrated newsreader.

We want a personal email client and newsreader -- a genuine successor to OE.

So, I say charge us for WLM, sell it to us -- as a superior, carefully honed
and developed Microsoft product, constantly upgraded and refined -- worthy
of the Microsoft name.

But don't produce a grossly inferior, botched product and then tell us we
shouldn't expect too much because it's free.
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Author
6 Feb 2009 6:42 AM
Sunny
"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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<snip
| But don't produce a grossly inferior, botched product and then tell us
we
| shouldn't expect too much because it's free.

In my never ending quest for the truth, can you point me to the site where
Microsoft has "told" us that?
Author
6 Feb 2009 8:30 AM
Gordon
"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> We sometimes hear the refrain in these newsgroups, from some quarters,
> that we shouldn't expect too much from WLM or some other "free" Microsoft
> software because we are not paying for it.
>
> ...That we should buy Outlook for example if we want more.
>
> But many of us see Outlook as slow, cumbersome and designed for business
> use -- not personal use -- ergo no integrated newsreader.
>
> We want a personal email client and newsreader -- a genuine successor to
> OE.

Then take a look at Mozilla Thunderbird - email with integrated News reader.
You can even use Hotmail on it with the appropriate add-ins. And with the
Lightning Calendar extension (there are LOADS of free add-ins for it) it is
rapidly approaching the functionality of Outlook. (And don't let certain
MVPs tell you otherwise - use it and see)
Get it here:
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/thunderbird/

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6 Feb 2009 9:19 AM
D. Spencer Hines
Yes, I have tried Mozilla Thunderbird  and I agree -- it's a good product.

But I think Forte Agent is even better.

DSH
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"Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
> news:%2326vnqAiJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> We sometimes hear the refrain in these newsgroups, from some quarters,
>> that we shouldn't expect too much from WLM or some other "free" Microsoft
>> software because we are not paying for it.
>>
>> ...That we should buy Outlook for example if we want more.
>>
>> But many of us see Outlook as slow, cumbersome and designed for business
>> use -- not personal use -- ergo no integrated newsreader.
>>
>> We want a personal email client and newsreader -- a genuine successor to
>> OE.
>
> Then take a look at Mozilla Thunderbird - email with integrated News
> reader. You can even use Hotmail on it with the appropriate add-ins. And
> with the Lightning Calendar extension (there are LOADS of free add-ins for
> it) it is rapidly approaching the functionality of Outlook. (And don't let
> certain MVPs tell you otherwise - use it and see)
> Get it here:
> http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/thunderbird/
>
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6 Feb 2009 1:41 PM
Gordon
"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I have tried Mozilla Thunderbird  and I agree -- it's a good product.
>
> But I think Forte Agent is even better.
>


for news certainly.

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6 Feb 2009 1:48 PM
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]
"Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> And with the Lightning Calendar extension (there are LOADS of free add-ins
> for it) it is rapidly approaching the functionality of Outlook. (And don't
> let certain MVPs tell you otherwise - use it and see)

When you discover how to perform a mail merge with it, let us know, OK?
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Author
6 Feb 2009 2:02 PM
Alias
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
> "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23Q5AoUDiJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> And with the Lightning Calendar extension (there are LOADS of free
>> add-ins for it) it is rapidly approaching the functionality of
>> Outlook. (And don't let certain MVPs tell you otherwise - use it and see)
>
> When you discover how to perform a mail merge with it, let us know, OK?

How many people use that and, for that matter, how many people even know
what it is?

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6 Feb 2009 2:55 PM
Gordon
"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23Q5AoUDiJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> And with the Lightning Calendar extension (there are LOADS of free
>> add-ins for it) it is rapidly approaching the functionality of Outlook.
>> (And don't let certain MVPs tell you otherwise - use it and see)
>
> When you discover how to perform a mail merge with it, let us know, OK?


The word is "approaching", not "is"

http://buffy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ACG/tbird-mailmerge.html

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