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Does OE 2K use a PST?

Author
6 May 2005 4:19 PM
J.Kearney
Well the subject line pretty much asks the question.

I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.

I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
into a new PST?

Thanks in advance!
Joe

Author
6 May 2005 4:41 PM
Brandon
no, OE does not use a .pst.  To import OE stuff into Outlook, Go to File >
Import (in Outlook) and choose "Import Internet Mail Account Settings".
After that, go back again and choose "Import Internet Mail and Addresses".

--
Brandon Smith
IT Director
Presentations Direct - Specialized Office Equipment & Supplies
http://www.presentationsdirect.com

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"J.Kearney" <j***@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:7aidnSwgjPS6BObfRVn-og@rcn.net...
> Well the subject line pretty much asks the question.
>
> I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
> using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.
>
> I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
> OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
> into a new PST?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Joe
>
Author
6 May 2005 4:45 PM
seth
no, it uses it's own storage format
in outlook, use the import/export feature (under file menu) and select
import from another program or file, then you can select outlook express and
it will import into outlook

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"J.Kearney" <j***@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:7aidnSwgjPS6BObfRVn-og@rcn.net...
> Well the subject line pretty much asks the question.
>
> I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
> using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.
>
> I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
> OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
> into a new PST?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Joe
>
Author
6 May 2005 5:10 PM
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Please ignore Brandon and Seth unless you don't mind losing important data.
Instead, from Outlook Express, Export your data to Outlook. Importing from
Outlook will lose received dates on your mail.  Also, please realize that
any "groups" created in OE will not make it over to Outlook, irrespective of
which method you use to get your data into Outlook.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.  Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, J.Kearney asked:

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| Well the subject line pretty much asks the question.
|
| I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
| using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.
|
| I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
| OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
| into a new PST?
|
| Thanks in advance!
| Joe
Author
6 May 2005 6:14 PM
Brandon
is it quite that dramatic?  Received dates for personal email usually isn't
that big of problem.

--
Brandon Smith
IT Director
Presentations Direct - Specialized Office Equipment & Supplies
http://www.presentationsdirect.com

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
<Mil***@donteventhinkaboutmailingmeatmvps.org> wrote in message
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> Please ignore Brandon and Seth unless you don't mind losing important
> data.
> Instead, from Outlook Express, Export your data to Outlook. Importing from
> Outlook will lose received dates on your mail.  Also, please realize that
> any "groups" created in OE will not make it over to Outlook, irrespective
> of
> which method you use to get your data into Outlook.
>
> --
> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>
> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.  Due to
> the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
> account will be deleted without reading.
>
> After furious head scratching, J.Kearney asked:
>
> | Well the subject line pretty much asks the question.
> |
> | I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
> | using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.
> |
> | I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
> | OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
> | into a new PST?
> |
> | Thanks in advance!
> | Joe
>
>
Author
6 May 2005 7:31 PM
Brian Tillman
Brandon <bsmith@presentationsdirect.nospam.com> wrote:

> is it quite that dramatic?  Received dates for personal email usually
> isn't that big of problem.

Perhaps for you that's true.  I dare say you're in the minority.  Anyway,
since there's a perfectly good way to move the data and retain the dates,
that way is demonstrably better.
--
Brian Tillman
Author
6 May 2005 7:44 PM
Brandon
I'm referring to personal email, not business email.

--
Brandon Smith
IT Director
Presentations Direct - Specialized Office Equipment & Supplies
http://www.presentationsdirect.com

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"Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Brandon <bsmith@presentationsdirect.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> is it quite that dramatic?  Received dates for personal email usually
>> isn't that big of problem.
>
> Perhaps for you that's true.  I dare say you're in the minority.  Anyway,
> since there's a perfectly good way to move the data and retain the dates,
> that way is demonstrably better.
> --
> Brian Tillman
Author
6 May 2005 7:48 PM
Brian Tillman
Brandon <bsmith@presentationsdirect.nospam.com> wrote:

> I'm referring to personal email, not business email.

So am I.
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Brian Tillman
Author
6 May 2005 7:58 PM
Brandon
doesn't matter anyway . . . my original comment was not intended to turn the
person away from doing the best option . . . my only point was that it
seemed a bit dramatic to say "Please ignore Brandon and Seth unless you
don't mind losing important data."  No biggy.

--
Brandon Smith
IT Director
Presentations Direct - Specialized Office Equipment & Supplies
http://www.presentationsdirect.com

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"Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Brandon <bsmith@presentationsdirect.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm referring to personal email, not business email.
>
> So am I.
> --
> Brian Tillman
Author
8 May 2005 6:28 AM
lvds
not to add fuel to the fire, but just last week, from Outlook 2003, I
imported approx. 30,000 emails from OE6. As far as I can tell, I did not
lose any data, including the receive dates. I've since been trying to trim
down that number into something more manageable. That was about 4 years of
mail accumulated in OE6 personal folders. Very pleased to now be using
Outlook as mail client.
Author
9 May 2005 1:33 PM
Brian Tillman
lvds <lesilesmarqui***@fatuhiva.net> wrote:

> not to add fuel to the fire, but just last week, from Outlook 2003, I
> imported approx. 30,000 emails from OE6. As far as I can tell, I did
> not lose any data,

Importing from OE is not the discussion.  The data that one loses with
import/export involves going from Outlook to Outlook.

> including the receive dates.

This would surprise me.  Importing from OE using OL always makes the
received date the date/time of import.  Perhaps you exported from OE to OL.
That preserves the received time stamp.
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Brian Tillman
Author
10 May 2005 4:57 AM
lvds
>Importing from OE is not the discussion.  The data that one loses with
>import/export involves going from Outlook to Outlook.

Excuse me, but you took that out of context. That was precisely the
discussion, importing OE data from a new installation of Outlook. Nobody
ever said anything about going from Outlook to Outlook. See original post at
beginning of thread by J. Kearney.


>This would surprise me.


Surprising? Maybe, but I can't comment on that with any authority since it
was the first time I  had ever tried the import procedure in this manner.
And even if surprising, that does not negate the veracity of the facts which
I clearly stated without any ambiguity.  From a new installation of Outlook,
I was offered the opportunity to import mail settings and mail from OE6. I
elected to do so, and proceeded with the flawless import of some 30,000
emails stored in OE6 personal mail folders. I'm not saying this is the
absolute best way to get your old mail into Outlook, but clearly it does
work for some people.


>Importing from OE using OL always makes the  received date the date/time
of import.

Obviously this is not a true statement.


>Perhaps you exported from OE to OL. That preserves the received time
stamp.


No, I did not export from OE to OL. Some of the imported mail went all the
way back to early 2002. I did not lose the date nor time stamp on any of
these emails. If that had been the case, I would have started over and tried
another way. After ensuring that all was OK, I deleted that particular OE
identity and began using Outlook as my default mail client.

A.N. Durden III





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Author
10 May 2005 1:14 PM
Brian Tillman
lvds <lesilesmarqui***@fatuhiva.net> wrote:

> Excuse me, but you took that out of context. That was precisely the
> discussion, importing OE data from a new installation of Outlook.

Conceded.

> Surprising? Maybe, but I can't comment on that with any authority
> since it was the first time I  had ever tried the import procedure in
> this manner. And even if surprising, that does not negate the
> veracity of the facts which I clearly stated without any ambiguity. From a
> new installation of Outlook, I was offered the opportunity to
> import mail settings and mail from OE6. I elected to do so, and
> proceeded with the flawless import of some 30,000 emails stored in
> OE6 personal mail folders. I'm not saying this is the absolute best
> way to get your old mail into Outlook, but clearly it does work for
> some people.

I'm not convinced this is entirely the same process as using File>Import and
Export from the Outlook menu and that's the usual way one imports data into
Outlook.  I didn't call you a liar, I expressed surprise as I've imported
mail from other clients into Outlook many times on different platforms and
to date, the received date had always changed to the import date.

> Obviously this is not a true statement.

I'm not entirely convinced the initial import that comes with a fresh
installation of Outlook uses the same mechanism.  Perhaps it does, but all
imports I've seen after the installation of Outlook was complete and its use
begun have changed the dates.

> No, I did not export from OE to OL. Some of the imported mail went
> all the way back to early 2002. I did not lose the date nor time
> stamp on any of these emails. If that had been the case, I would have
> started over and tried another way. After ensuring that all was OK, I
> deleted that particular OE identity and began using Outlook as my
> default mail client.

I believe you.
--
Brian Tillman
Author
6 May 2005 6:16 PM
Brian Tillman
J.Kearney <j***@rcn.com> wrote:

> I'd like to move my father's mail on a Win2K machine
> using Outlook Express 2000 to Outlook.

There's no such thing as Outlook Express 2000.

> I know OL 2000 uses PST files but I'm not sure about
> OE 2000. If not, any advice on importing the old e-mail
> into a new PST?

First configure Outlook properly.  Then in Outlook Express click
File>Export>Messages.  OE will automatically send the mesages to Outlook's
delivery location, mimicking the folder structure OE is using.

To transfer Contacts and Rules, start Outlook and click File>Import and
Export>Import Internet Mail and Addresses>Next.  Select Outlook Express,
uncheck "Import Mail" and click Next.  Select the appropriate duplicate
handling and click Finish.
--
Brian Tillman

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