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Searchingsimply doesn't seem to work very well. Here's an example: Let's say you get a lot of emails from various customers at a hypothetical domain called "thedomain.com" and you want to find these emails. Use Advance Find Go to "Advance" tab Select the "From" field Select the "contains" condition Type "@thedomain.com" (no quotes) in the "Value" field Add to list Browse for desired folder and choose to search subfolders if appropriate Click "Find Now". When I do this, the results are random at best. And, with absolute certainty, I know that it does not find all messages. In fact, I've tested this with messages that just arrived (meaning that I can see the message and it is not buried 300 messages away) and "Advanced Find" cannot find them. What am I doing wrong? I just want to be able to search based on a substring in the email address. Not all of these people are necesarily in my address book, so I can't pull a contact off the address book. And, as the above example proposed, sometimes you are not looking for individuals but for anyone from that domain or maybe you vaguely remember that the email starts with "lucy" and just want to go hunting for it. Thanks, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martin Euredjian To send private email: 0_0_0***@pacbell.net where "0_0_0_0_" = "martineu" Outlook version?
-- Show quoteSue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Martin" <0_0_0***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:9Ttee.2713$5o2.198@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >I haven't been very succesful at using Outlook's "Advanced Find" tool. It > simply doesn't seem to work very well. Here's an example: > > Let's say you get a lot of emails from various customers at a hypothetical > domain called "thedomain.com" and you want to find these emails. > > Use Advance Find > Go to "Advance" tab > Select the "From" field > Select the "contains" condition > Type "@thedomain.com" (no quotes) in the "Value" field > Add to list > Browse for desired folder and choose to search subfolders if appropriate > Click "Find Now". > > When I do this, the results are random at best. And, with absolute > certainty, I know that it does not find all messages. In fact, I've tested > this with messages that just arrived (meaning that I can see the message and > it is not buried 300 messages away) and "Advanced Find" cannot find them. > > What am I doing wrong? > > I just want to be able to search based on a substring in the email address. > Not all of these people are necesarily in my address book, so I can't pull a > contact off the address book. And, as the above example proposed, sometimes > you are not looking for individuals but for anyone from that domain or maybe > you vaguely remember that the email starts with "lucy" and just want to go > hunting for it. > > Thanks, > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Martin Euredjian > > To send private email: > 0_0_0***@pacbell.net > where > "0_0_0_0_" = "martineu" > > > > Outlook version? Sorry. 2003, SP1.Although, I know I've seen this problem in prior versions. I don't remember to what extent. -Martin And the problem is? The newsgroup interface you are using apparently does not quote earlier messages in the thread, making your latest message so short on detail that you risk not getting the answer you're looking for. Please take the time to quote the original message.
-- Show quoteSue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Martin" <0_0_0***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:k6Dee.2961$5o2.2613@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> Outlook version? > > Sorry. 2003, SP1. > > Although, I know I've seen this problem in prior versions. I don't remember > to what extent. > > -Martin > > > And the problem is? The newsgroup interface you are using apparently does No, that's not the case. Using OE.> not quote earlier messages in the thread I deleted the rest of the message. No sense in carrying repetitive information. OE keeps the whole thread, therefore it isn't all that difficult to get the full story. Also, if everything else fails, there's always Google. Secondarily, in the US we have pretty benign Internet access possibilities, however, in other parts of the world it is quite costly to get online. Less bytes in a message means that people can get in and out quickly. Just trying to be considerate. Lastly, in this day an age of portable Internet access devices it is wise to be aware of the fact that not everyone appreciates messages with 30K of redundant information. For example, I use a Blackberry on a daily basis, where bottom-posting is nothing short of a nightmare. It makes reading through ones emails virtually impossible. I know that the bottom/top posting issue is almost a religious one. I am not saying the above to start yet another useless debate on the subject. Just explaining my methodology. -Martin No one was asking for 30k of redundant information, just the 5k that stated the problem clearly.
-- Show quoteSue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Martin" <0_0_0***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:ltLee.1728$X21.259@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> And the problem is? The newsgroup interface you are using apparently does >> not quote earlier messages in the thread > > No, that's not the case. Using OE. > > I deleted the rest of the message. No sense in carrying repetitive > information. OE keeps the whole thread, therefore it isn't all that > difficult to get the full story. Also, if everything else fails, there's > always Google. > > Secondarily, in the US we have pretty benign Internet access possibilities, > however, in other parts of the world it is quite costly to get online. Less > bytes in a message means that people can get in and out quickly. Just > trying to be considerate. > > Lastly, in this day an age of portable Internet access devices it is wise to > be aware of the fact that not everyone appreciates messages with 30K of > redundant information. For example, I use a Blackberry on a daily basis, > where bottom-posting is nothing short of a nightmare. It makes reading > through ones emails virtually impossible. I know that the bottom/top > posting issue is almost a religious one. I am not saying the above to start > yet another useless debate on the subject. Just explaining my methodology. > > -Martin > > Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] <sue***@outlookcode.com> wrote:
> The newsgroup interface you are using apparently And the one you are using doesn't seem to do a good job of keeping track of > does not quote earlier messages in the thread threads, but that shouldn't be the case, since you're using Outlook Express. So am I and I can easily see Martin's original post. I wonder why you can't. -- Brian Tillman Simple: I mark messages as read when I read them and don't keep them around. Since most threads never receive further replies, that keeps the clutter under control.
-- Show quoteSue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx "Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23%23JUESkUFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] <sue***@outlookcode.com> wrote: > >> The newsgroup interface you are using apparently >> does not quote earlier messages in the thread > > And the one you are using doesn't seem to do a good job of keeping track of > threads, but that shouldn't be the case, since you're using Outlook Express. > So am I and I can easily see Martin's original post. I wonder why you > can't. > -- > Brian Tillman > > Simple: I mark messages as read when I read them and don't keep them Forgive me for being obtuse here. I mark my messages as read by means of > around. the timed setting in OE. However, any messages in a thread whose content was previously downloaded stay available for a long time (weeks?) before they get flushed out. Your ISP or newsfeed provider ultimately determines for how long the messages stay on their server. Then, there's always Google. Just a couple of clicks away. What are you doing that causes a message that is marked as read to be emptied of all content irreparably? And, why would you do that to a message that you just responded to? Do you simply delete them and/or the thread? I've never run into this, ever. And, I've been in USENET for probably over 20 years, reading, following and participating in several dozen newsgroups (mostly enginering related) over this time. In twenty years it's the first time someone asks me to re-post, particularly to something that they just responded to hours earlier. Yes, USENET is at least 20 years old. I was using it with plain text terminals back in the early '80's. -Martin Let's try this again.
Outlook 2003, latest SP's and updates PST size: About 900MB Archive PSD size: About 200MB Win XP Pro, up to date with SP's and other updates. Simply stated: Advanced Find fails to reliably locate messages, even with the simplest search conditions. A typical one for me is to look for any emails from a certain domain. For example, any messages where the "To" field contains "@microsoft.com". I've seen posts on similar issues going back to v2000 and no apparent resolution. Is this just a bug that hasn't been fixed? Thanks, -Martin Martin <0_0_0***@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Simply stated: Advanced Find fails to reliably locate messages, even Does it work if you leave off the "@"?> with the simplest search conditions. A typical one for me is to look > for any emails from a certain domain. For example, any messages > where the "To" field contains "@microsoft.com". -- Brian Tillman Brian Tillman wrote:
>> Simply stated: Advanced Find fails to reliably locate messages, even It doesn't make any difference. I could search for "soft" or "micro" or >> with the simplest search conditions. A typical one for me is to look >> for any emails from a certain domain. For example, any messages >> where the "To" field contains "@microsoft.com". > > Does it work if you leave off the "@"? "soft.com" with similar results. In general terms, it's an issue having to do with searching for a substring within a string (in this case the email address). This isn't generally a total failure scenario, but rather a quality-of-results issue. If there are 100 messages that should match the target string, the search might only uncover five. I also suspect that it is not always spanning subfolders, even if that option is checked. One question is about the meaning of the "To" field. If Outlook takes "To" to have something to do with an entry in the address book rather than simply a text string that happens to contain an email address...that might explain it. -Martin Update.
MS support tells me that the "From" field in Advance Find will not search the email address field but rather the display name: In other words, if John Smith's email address is john100***@aol.com searching for "john100001" will yield no results. However, searching for "Smith" would. The resoultion is a little strange. When Advance Find starts up, simply type the desired seach substring in the textbox next to the "From..." button. You have to make sure that the "In:" field just above that reads "subject field and message body". Amazingly enough, this will search for a substing within the sender's actual email address. I'll just accept the fact that this works. How we get from "subject field and message body" to searching the email address is beyond me. Oh, well. Hope this is of use to someone who might be having similar problems. -Martin Show quote "Martin" <0_0_0***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:9Ttee.2713$5o2.198@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >I haven't been very succesful at using Outlook's "Advanced Find" tool. It >simply doesn't seem to work very well. Here's an example: > > Let's say you get a lot of emails from various customers at a hypothetical > domain called "thedomain.com" and you want to find these emails. > > Use Advance Find > Go to "Advance" tab > Select the "From" field > Select the "contains" condition > Type "@thedomain.com" (no quotes) in the "Value" field > Add to list > Browse for desired folder and choose to search subfolders if appropriate > Click "Find Now". > > When I do this, the results are random at best. And, with absolute > certainty, I know that it does not find all messages. In fact, I've > tested this with messages that just arrived (meaning that I can see the > message and it is not buried 300 messages away) and "Advanced Find" cannot > find them. > > What am I doing wrong? > > I just want to be able to search based on a substring in the email > address. Not all of these people are necesarily in my address book, so I > can't pull a contact off the address book. And, as the above example > proposed, sometimes you are not looking for individuals but for anyone > from that domain or maybe you vaguely remember that the email starts with > "lucy" and just want to go hunting for it. > > Thanks, > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Martin Euredjian > > To send private email: > 0_0_0***@pacbell.net > where > "0_0_0_0_" = "martineu" > > >  
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