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NEWSGROUPS ?Hi all,
I am trying to subscribe to newsgroups an did don't know how to do it with outlook 2003. With Outlook Express it is rather straight forward, however - using "Help" it disappear from the go command. Any help will be appreciated, TIA, Isaac Isaac Gutman M.D. <igutm***@zahav.net.il> wrote:
> I am trying to subscribe to newsgroups an did don't know how to do it Outlook does not, nor has it ever, access newsgroups. It uses Outlook > with outlook 2003. > With Outlook Express it is rather straight forward, however - using > "Help" it disappear from the go command. Express or Windows Mail for that. You can buy NNTP add-ins, but it's not native to Outlook. For an explanation of what you're seeing, see this: http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/news.htm -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
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"Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message That is not exactly technically true. You CAN set your Exchange Server to news:O1kXQLjGIHA.5228@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Isaac Gutman M.D. <igutm***@zahav.net.il> wrote: > >> I am trying to subscribe to newsgroups an did don't know how to do it >> with outlook 2003. >> With Outlook Express it is rather straight forward, however - using >> "Help" it disappear from the go command. > > Outlook does not, nor has it ever, access newsgroups. It uses Outlook > Express or Windows Mail for that. You can buy NNTP add-ins, but it's not > native to Outlook. > > For an explanation of what you're seeing, see this: > http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/news.htm > -- > Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] pull news groups, and access them through Public Folders(if I remember correctly) in Outlook. I had that set up at one of the companies I used to work for. Total MS house, heavy SQL programming, etc. Users would submit a request for a pertinent group, i.e. Outlook, and I would add it to the Exchange server. This way we could maintain control of the profiles for a business environment, and still give our users access to the resources they needed. -- Ya know...the hurrier I go, the behinder I get. Remember to always engage brain, before putting mouth into gear. Kill the munge to reply by email. DarkSentinel <darksenti***@comcast.net> wrote:
> That is not exactly technically true. You CAN set your Exchange It is technically true. It is Exchange acting as the NNTP agent in this > Server to pull news groups, and access them through Public Folders(if > I remember correctly) in Outlook. case, not Outlook. Outlook is accessing an ordinary Public Folder, not a newsgroup. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] "Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message The point I was trying to make here, is that you CAN access newsgroups with news:eG8o1uuJIHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > DarkSentinel <darksenti***@comcast.net> wrote: > >> That is not exactly technically true. You CAN set your Exchange >> Server to pull news groups, and access them through Public Folders(if >> I remember correctly) in Outlook. > > It is technically true. It is Exchange acting as the NNTP agent in this > case, not Outlook. Outlook is accessing an ordinary Public Folder, not a > newsgroup. > -- > Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] it, albeit in a round about fashion. Doesn't matter WHAT server it is. Exchange is filling the part of the NNTP server no? And accessing the public folder is analogous to subscribing to the group. I never stated that it would do it directly as OE, Agent, et al do, now did I? All I stated was it COULD be done. -- Ya know...the hurrier I go, the behinder I get. Remember to always engage brain, before putting mouth into gear. Kill the munge to reply by email. Well, to add to the fun and games, that is no longer true with current Exchange development. No more NNTP and no more public folders (soon, very soon...)
-- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, DarkSentinel asked: Show quote | "Brian Tillman" <tillman1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:eG8o1uuJIHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... || DarkSentinel <darksenti***@comcast.net> wrote: || ||| That is not exactly technically true. You CAN set your Exchange ||| Server to pull news groups, and access them through Public ||| Folders(if I remember correctly) in Outlook. || || It is technically true. It is Exchange acting as the NNTP agent in || this case, not Outlook. Outlook is accessing an ordinary Public || Folder, not a newsgroup. || -- || Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] | | The point I was trying to make here, is that you CAN access | newsgroups with it, albeit in a round about fashion. Doesn't matter | WHAT server it is. Exchange is filling the part of the NNTP server | no? And accessing the public folder is analogous to subscribing to | the group. I never stated that it would do it directly as OE, Agent, | et al do, now did I? All I stated was it COULD be done. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <What@ever> wrote in message Well, to add to the fun and games, that is no longer true with current news:%23n9SEu$JIHA.5788@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Exchange development. No more NNTP and no more public folders (soon, very soon...) Never fails to amaze me how things that are actually useful seem to get killed. That's progress for ya. -- Ya know...the hurrier I go, the behinder I get. Remember to always engage brain, before putting mouth into gear. Kill the munge to reply by email. PFs are being migrated to SharePoint and NNTP is on its deathbed, to listen to some.
-- Show quoteMilly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. After furious head scratching, DarkSentinel asked: | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <What@ever> wrote in message | news:%23n9SEu$JIHA.5788@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | Well, to add to the fun and games, that is no longer true with current | Exchange development. No more NNTP and no more public folders (soon, | very soon...) | | Never fails to amaze me how things that are actually useful seem to | get killed. That's progress for ya. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <millysdonteventhinkaboutmailin***@mvps.org> Again, one of MS's endless force em to upgrade deals. And no I'm not wrote in message news:eGqTyEjKIHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > PFs are being migrated to SharePoint and NNTP is on its deathbed, to > listen to some. > starting a flame MS thread. All the software houses do it. This is where we want to go with this, and you are going to have to upgrade whether you like it or not. I always like the public folders. But then again, my old company was an Exchange 5 house, so..... What is slated to replace NNTP then? RSS or something of that nature? I am a firm believer in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. But hey, who knows the replacement just may be better. Just hope it will be better than the marginal increases in functionality so prevalent now days. Good example is OE vs. WLM. To be honest the eye candy upgrade sucks, but that is just for me. Perhaps it is because I am so used to the look and feel of OE. The only real functionality improvement I can discern is the ability to choose to top or bottom post, and the safety options I guess. They even took a step backwards, when the removed the Block Sender functionality as implemented in OE. And again, MS is not the only house that is doing this. Seems like everyone wants to take 2 step forwards, and one step back. Maybe I'm just getting overly picky in my old age...lol -- Ya know...the hurrier I go, the behinder I get. Remember to always engage brain, before putting mouth into gear. Kill the munge to reply by email.
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"DarkSentinel" <darksentinel@comcast.nowantspam.net> wrote in message I doubt anything is scheduled to replace it. I'd wager that the number of news:Kq60j.92$2h1.62@newsfe06.lga... >> PFs are being migrated to SharePoint and NNTP is on its deathbed, to >> listen to some. >> > > Again, one of MS's endless force em to upgrade deals. And no I'm not > starting a flame MS thread. All the software houses do it. This is where > we want to go with this, and you are going to have to upgrade whether you > like it or not. I always like the public folders. But then again, my old > company was an Exchange 5 house, so..... > > What is slated to replace NNTP then? RSS or something of that nature? I am > a firm believer in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. But hey, > who knows the replacement just may be better. Just hope it will be better > than the marginal increases in functionality so prevalent now days. Good > example is OE vs. WLM. To be honest the eye candy upgrade sucks, but that > is just for me. Perhaps it is because I am so used to the look and feel of > OE. The only real functionality improvement I can discern is the ability > to choose to top or bottom post, and the safety options I guess. They even > took a step backwards, when the removed the Block Sender functionality as > implemented in OE. And again, MS is not the only house that is doing this. > Seems like everyone wants to take 2 step forwards, and one step back. > Maybe I'm just getting overly picky in my old age...lol customers MS has using the NNTP functionality of Exchange was low enough that there isn't that much of an outcry that it is going away. I doubt they even when into the 'death of usenet' fud when making the decision. It was solely 'Do we have users using this?' Are there *some*? I'm sure there are. But, with PFs going away, the question of how NNTP could be handled without PFs was probably suitably complex that they weren't too concerned there either. Which also leads to the obvious question. If sharepoint is the replacement for PFs, is there a NNTP importer type application for Sharepoint? -- f.h. SharePoint is infinitely customizable and programmable. I would not be surprised if there already is a replacement for news groups in MOSS 2007.
-- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, F. H. Muffman asked: Show quote | "DarkSentinel" <darksentinel@comcast.nowantspam.net> wrote in message | news:Kq60j.92$2h1.62@newsfe06.lga... ||| PFs are being migrated to SharePoint and NNTP is on its deathbed, to ||| listen to some. ||| || || Again, one of MS's endless force em to upgrade deals. And no I'm not || starting a flame MS thread. All the software houses do it. This is || where we want to go with this, and you are going to have to upgrade || whether you like it or not. I always like the public folders. But || then again, my old company was an Exchange 5 house, so..... || || What is slated to replace NNTP then? RSS or something of that || nature? I am a firm believer in the "If it ain't broke, don't fix || it" camp. But hey, who knows the replacement just may be better. || Just hope it will be better than the marginal increases in || functionality so prevalent now days. Good example is OE vs. WLM. To || be honest the eye candy upgrade sucks, but that is just for me. || Perhaps it is because I am so used to the look and feel of OE. The || only real functionality improvement I can discern is the ability to || choose to top or bottom post, and the safety options I guess. They || even took a step backwards, when the removed the Block Sender || functionality as implemented in OE. And again, MS is not the only || house that is doing this. Seems like everyone wants to take 2 step || forwards, and one step back. Maybe I'm just getting overly picky in || my old age...lol | | I doubt anything is scheduled to replace it. I'd wager that the | number of customers MS has using the NNTP functionality of Exchange | was low enough that there isn't that much of an outcry that it is | going away. | | I doubt they even when into the 'death of usenet' fud when making the | decision. It was solely 'Do we have users using this?' | | Are there *some*? I'm sure there are. But, with PFs going away, the | question of how NNTP could be handled without PFs was probably | suitably complex that they weren't too concerned there either. | | Which also leads to the obvious question. If sharepoint is the | replacement for PFs, is there a NNTP importer type application for | Sharepoint?  |
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