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weird problem[?] annoyance with "Send/Receive" behavior and the Outbox[transferring settings only]. Using Outlook v.10.6515.6817 SP3 [and fully updated] Windows MCE 2005 -- all patched, updated, etc. I do not use "Immediate Send". Unsent messages are saved to the Drafts folder. The Outlook Outbox folder is behaving strangely --- if I have the folder open when I write an email message, then click "Send" [on the message's window], the message goes into the Outbox and is highlighted. If I do not click "Send/Receive" immediately, the message changes from italicized [ready to send] to regular font [not to be sent]. In fact, if it takes more than a second or two for Outlook and my ISP's email server to get going, then the message reverts to "no send" status. There are times when I click send [in the message window], and the message does not go out when I then do "Send/Receive" -- I check the Outbox [it was not the open folder when I did the message or the "Send/Receive"], and the message is not italicized. I am not certain, but when there are multiple messages in the Outbox, and I *do not* have the Outbox open, it even seems to happen then. This seems to happen irregularly. [It's hard to tell, since after doing a Send/Receive, I have to open the Outbox to see what message is stuck there, and once the Outbox is open, the highlighted message quickly goes to "no send" status.] This did not happen on my old machine [XP Pro]. I am stumped as to why this should be. It sure is annoyingAny help will be appreciated. TIA albert If you have antivirus scanning of email enabled, turn it off.
-- Show quoteRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message news:OzfbqH07GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I migrated to new PC, using the Microsoft Files and Settings Wizard > [transferring settings only]. > > Using Outlook v.10.6515.6817 SP3 [and fully updated] > Windows MCE 2005 -- all patched, updated, etc. > > I do not use "Immediate Send". Unsent messages are saved to the Drafts > folder. > > The Outlook Outbox folder is behaving strangely --- if I have the folder > open when I write an email message, then click "Send" [on the message's > window], the message goes into the Outbox and is highlighted. If I do not > click "Send/Receive" immediately, the message changes from italicized > [ready > to send] to regular font [not to be sent]. In fact, if it takes more than > a > second or two for Outlook and my ISP's email server to get going, then the > message reverts to "no send" status. > > There are times when I click send [in the message window], and the message > does not go out when I then do "Send/Receive" -- I check the Outbox [it > was not the open folder when I did the message or the "Send/Receive"], and > the message is not italicized. I am not certain, but when there are > multiple messages in the Outbox, and I *do not* have the Outbox open, it > even seems to happen then. This seems to happen irregularly. [It's hard > to tell, since after doing a Send/Receive, I have to open the Outbox to > see what message is stuck there, and once the Outbox is open, the > highlighted message quickly goes to "no send" status.] > > This did not happen on my old machine [XP Pro]. > > I am stumped as to why this should be. It sure is annoyingAny help will > be appreciated. > > TIA > albert > Russ,
I think you may have figured it out. I just tried your suggestion -- and after a reboot, it appears that the Outlook Outbox is no longer puzzling me. FYI [and, esp. for others who may encounter the same puzzling behavior] -- a bit more background now that your solution seems to have done the trick: I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2005 [AV + Antispam + Firewall] -- which came with the new machine. The old machine used Norton AV 2005, Zone Alarm Firewall and *no* dedicated anti-spam program. The old machine had Norton AV set to scan incoming email, and there were no problems with Outlook's Outbox. So, with your suggestion in mind, I retained NAV's setting to always "scan *incoming* email". I turned off Norton AV's *outgoing* email scanning [it defaults to scanning outgoing mail]. I also turned off, entirely, the Norton Antispam feature, including its default integration with Outlook. As I more carefully investigated its configuration settings, I noticed that Norton Antispam defaults to scanning incoming email [IMHO, a good idea] and *outgoing* email [at my level of expertise, I am not at all clear as to why I would want that as a feature]. I may go back later on, and try the Antispam with some tweaking, to see what that does. But frankly, after a month with the new machine, I have not yet seen much value to the Norton Antispam setup -- as my ISP used Brightmail and, spamwise, does a pretty good job lately. Over the past month, using its default settings, the Norton Antispam caught nothing. Thanks again for your help. albert Show quote "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russ***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eN9IMm37GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If you have antivirus scanning of email enabled, turn it off. > -- > Russ Valentine > [MVP-Outlook] > "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:OzfbqH07GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I migrated to new PC, using the Microsoft Files and Settings Wizard >> [transferring settings only]. >> >> Using Outlook v.10.6515.6817 SP3 [and fully updated] >> Windows MCE 2005 -- all patched, updated, etc. >> >> I do not use "Immediate Send". Unsent messages are saved to the Drafts >> folder. >> >> The Outlook Outbox folder is behaving strangely --- if I have the folder >> open when I write an email message, then click "Send" [on the message's >> window], the message goes into the Outbox and is highlighted. If I do >> not >> click "Send/Receive" immediately, the message changes from italicized >> [ready >> to send] to regular font [not to be sent]. In fact, if it takes more >> than a >> second or two for Outlook and my ISP's email server to get going, then >> the >> message reverts to "no send" status. >> >> There are times when I click send [in the message window], and the >> message does not go out when I then do "Send/Receive" -- I check the >> Outbox [it was not the open folder when I did the message or the >> "Send/Receive"], and the message is not italicized. I am not certain, >> but when there are multiple messages in the Outbox, and I *do not* have >> the Outbox open, it even seems to happen then. This seems to happen >> irregularly. [It's hard to tell, since after doing a Send/Receive, I >> have to open the Outbox to see what message is stuck there, and once the >> Outbox is open, the highlighted message quickly goes to "no send" >> status.] >> >> This did not happen on my old machine [XP Pro]. >> >> I am stumped as to why this should be. It sure is annoyingAny help will >> be appreciated. >> >> TIA >> albert >> > > albert <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote:
> So, with your suggestion in mind, I retained NAV's setting to always Even that is unnecessary and can cause trouble. DIsable NAV mail scanning > "scan *incoming* email". altogether. -- Brian Tillman All email scanning is superfluous as long as you're running a real time AV
scanning. Keep it all disabled. -- Show quoteRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message news:evg0j457GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Russ, > > I think you may have figured it out. I just tried your suggestion -- and > after a reboot, it appears that the Outlook Outbox is no longer puzzling > me. > > FYI [and, esp. for others who may encounter the same puzzling behavior] -- > a bit more background now that your solution seems to have done the trick: > > I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2005 [AV + Antispam + > Firewall] -- which came with the new machine. The old machine used > Norton AV 2005, Zone Alarm Firewall and *no* dedicated anti-spam program. > The old machine had Norton AV set to scan incoming email, and there were > no problems with Outlook's Outbox. > > So, with your suggestion in mind, I retained NAV's setting to always > "scan *incoming* email". I turned off Norton AV's *outgoing* email > scanning [it defaults to scanning outgoing mail]. I also turned off, > entirely, the Norton Antispam feature, including its default integration > with Outlook. As I more carefully investigated its configuration > settings, I noticed that Norton Antispam defaults to scanning incoming > email [IMHO, a good idea] and *outgoing* email [at my level of expertise, > I am not at all clear as to why I would want that as a feature]. > > I may go back later on, and try the Antispam with some tweaking, to see > what that does. But frankly, after a month with the new machine, I have > not yet seen much value to the Norton Antispam setup -- as my ISP used > Brightmail and, spamwise, does a pretty good job lately. Over the past > month, using its default settings, the Norton Antispam caught nothing. > > Thanks again for your help. > > albert > > > > > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russ***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:eN9IMm37GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> If you have antivirus scanning of email enabled, turn it off. >> -- >> Russ Valentine >> [MVP-Outlook] >> "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message >> news:OzfbqH07GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>I migrated to new PC, using the Microsoft Files and Settings Wizard >>> [transferring settings only]. >>> >>> Using Outlook v.10.6515.6817 SP3 [and fully updated] >>> Windows MCE 2005 -- all patched, updated, etc. >>> >>> I do not use "Immediate Send". Unsent messages are saved to the Drafts >>> folder. >>> >>> The Outlook Outbox folder is behaving strangely --- if I have the >>> folder >>> open when I write an email message, then click "Send" [on the message's >>> window], the message goes into the Outbox and is highlighted. If I do >>> not >>> click "Send/Receive" immediately, the message changes from italicized >>> [ready >>> to send] to regular font [not to be sent]. In fact, if it takes more >>> than a >>> second or two for Outlook and my ISP's email server to get going, then >>> the >>> message reverts to "no send" status. >>> >>> There are times when I click send [in the message window], and the >>> message does not go out when I then do "Send/Receive" -- I check the >>> Outbox [it was not the open folder when I did the message or the >>> "Send/Receive"], and the message is not italicized. I am not certain, >>> but when there are multiple messages in the Outbox, and I *do not* have >>> the Outbox open, it even seems to happen then. This seems to happen >>> irregularly. [It's hard to tell, since after doing a Send/Receive, I >>> have to open the Outbox to see what message is stuck there, and once the >>> Outbox is open, the highlighted message quickly goes to "no send" >>> status.] >>> >>> This did not happen on my old machine [XP Pro]. >>> >>> I am stumped as to why this should be. It sure is annoyingAny help >>> will >>> be appreciated. >>> >>> TIA >>> albert >>> >> >> > Brian and Russ,
Thanks for the advice. Yes, I always keep my AV protection on all the time. I will try turning off the NAV incoming email scanning. albert Show quote "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russ***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:D9E35DDA-6215-41AD-8488-C5F7974F6448@microsoft.com... > All email scanning is superfluous as long as you're running a real time AV > scanning. Keep it all disabled. > -- > Russ Valentine > [MVP-Outlook] > "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:evg0j457GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Russ, >> >> I think you may have figured it out. I just tried your suggestion -- and >> after a reboot, it appears that the Outlook Outbox is no longer puzzling >> me. >> >> FYI [and, esp. for others who may encounter the same puzzling >> behavior] -- a bit more background now that your solution seems to have >> done the trick: >> >> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2005 [AV + Antispam + >> Firewall] -- which came with the new machine. The old machine used >> Norton AV 2005, Zone Alarm Firewall and *no* dedicated anti-spam program. >> The old machine had Norton AV set to scan incoming email, and there were >> no problems with Outlook's Outbox. >> >> So, with your suggestion in mind, I retained NAV's setting to always >> "scan *incoming* email". I turned off Norton AV's *outgoing* email >> scanning [it defaults to scanning outgoing mail]. I also turned off, >> entirely, the Norton Antispam feature, including its default integration >> with Outlook. As I more carefully investigated its configuration >> settings, I noticed that Norton Antispam defaults to scanning incoming >> email [IMHO, a good idea] and *outgoing* email [at my level of expertise, >> I am not at all clear as to why I would want that as a feature]. >> >> I may go back later on, and try the Antispam with some tweaking, to see >> what that does. But frankly, after a month with the new machine, I have >> not yet seen much value to the Norton Antispam setup -- as my ISP used >> Brightmail and, spamwise, does a pretty good job lately. Over the past >> month, using its default settings, the Norton Antispam caught nothing. >> >> Thanks again for your help. >> >> albert >> >> >> >> >> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russ***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:eN9IMm37GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> If you have antivirus scanning of email enabled, turn it off. >>> -- >>> Russ Valentine >>> [MVP-Outlook] >>> "albert" <albert.h@nospam.net> wrote in message >>> news:OzfbqH07GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>I migrated to new PC, using the Microsoft Files and Settings Wizard >>>> [transferring settings only]. >>>> >>>> Using Outlook v.10.6515.6817 SP3 [and fully updated] >>>> Windows MCE 2005 -- all patched, updated, etc. >>>> >>>> I do not use "Immediate Send". Unsent messages are saved to the Drafts >>>> folder. >>>> >>>> The Outlook Outbox folder is behaving strangely --- if I have the >>>> folder >>>> open when I write an email message, then click "Send" [on the message's >>>> window], the message goes into the Outbox and is highlighted. If I do >>>> not >>>> click "Send/Receive" immediately, the message changes from italicized >>>> [ready >>>> to send] to regular font [not to be sent]. In fact, if it takes more >>>> than a >>>> second or two for Outlook and my ISP's email server to get going, then >>>> the >>>> message reverts to "no send" status. >>>> >>>> There are times when I click send [in the message window], and the >>>> message does not go out when I then do "Send/Receive" -- I check the >>>> Outbox [it was not the open folder when I did the message or the >>>> "Send/Receive"], and the message is not italicized. I am not certain, >>>> but when there are multiple messages in the Outbox, and I *do not* have >>>> the Outbox open, it even seems to happen then. This seems to happen >>>> irregularly. [It's hard to tell, since after doing a Send/Receive, I >>>> have to open the Outbox to see what message is stuck there, and once >>>> the >>>> Outbox is open, the highlighted message quickly goes to "no send" >>>> status.] >>>> >>>> This did not happen on my old machine [XP Pro]. >>>> >>>> I am stumped as to why this should be. It sure is annoyingAny help >>>> will >>>> be appreciated. >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> albert >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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